Its a ceramic gun!!!

March 3, 2012

So once again I learned a lesson. Do not make posts titled part one or everyone wants you to finish them with a part two, all the while you feel like writing about something else. This has absolutely nothing to do with vintage firearms or ammunition. In fact most gun folks over the age of thirty will probably find it boring and repetitive…….. but there is a whole new generation of shooters who hardly remember the 90s. So if you older folks wanna read on for a laugh down memory lane feel free… if not, you can catch the newest episodes of Jersey Shore on MTV pretty much playing around the clock… or you could walk the dog or something.

So in 1990 a movie called Die Hard 2 came out. For those of you who have just reached the legal handgun ownership age, you probably didn’t see it in the theater. You really didn’t miss much except one simple line that sent the gun control lobby into a frenzy. In the film there is a scene where Bruce Willis claims that the Glock pistol carried by one of the bad guys is a ceramic gun that can get past an airport metal detector. I was 11 years old when this movie came out and I knew he was full of crap. Less than a year before that I saw my first Glock in person.  My Cub Scout pack took a tour of a local sheriffs office and jail and the deputy who gave the tour showed us his Glock 17 service pistol, demonstrating how it had to to be put in a lock box before entering the cell block area. At age 11 I was by no means a firearms expert but I could clearly see the pistol had a plastic frame and that most of the other parts were made of metal. The deputy told us that the company who made the firearm was called Glock and that it was made in Austria. I was a bit fascinated by the weapon but it wasn’t until I saw Die Hard 2 that I started noticing false claims about these weapons made left and right.

First off the Glock model 17 is the first model the company produced. Its model number is based on the 17 round magazine capacity. The frame of the weapon is injected molded polymer ( plastic if you will) with metal rails, a steel barrel and slide, and a majority of its thirty-something parts made of metal. So for the folks out there ( ahem..Sarah Brady) that realistically think that it can pass through airport security undetected…well let me just say as nicely as possible that you need to repeat 4th grade science.

The movie Die Hard 2 actually ( and I wish I was kidding) sparked a witch hunt against Glock. Overnight you had senators claiming that it could get past airport security.  In 1990, a Glock was a rather expensive pistol and not at all the weapon of the common street criminal or gang member. This did not seem to matter to the anti-gun lobby. As far as they were concerned, if Bruce Willis said it was the tool of a terrorist, then it was. I often wondered if these same folks thought the scene where his character John McClain used the ejection seat of a grounded aircraft to successfully parachute away from a cockpit full of grenades was realistic.

It seriously boggles my mind that the gun control lobby believes crap like this. I believe the movie Dick Tracey came out that same summer. The film had a several minute gun fight where Tracey never reloads his Thompson but fires constantly. Anyone who has ever fired a submachine gun know the magazine no matter how large is empty in seconds. And yet the Brady Campaign and others feel the need to use Hollywood as their text book for firearms information.

For those of you just old enough to own a firearm… DO NOT take for granted the fact that you can buy an AR-15 with a flash hider, bayonet lug, pistol grip, and a 30 round magazine. When I turned 18, that was only an option if you bought an insanely priced “pre-ban” rifle.  Until I was 25, buying a new pistol with a magazine over 10 rounds was not happening. And the sad part is, that the gun grabbers in congress used movies like Die hard 2 to get their way.

Now call me crazy, but if I recall correctly, on Tuesday September 11th 2001, there were no Glock pistols in the hands of the bad guys. Just simple razor knife box cutters we can all buy with five bucks at any hardware store. It would have looked pretty stupid for a senator or congressperson  to propose a bill banning those. Instead, they pushed for a renewal of the Clinton crime bill, but thankfully lost that fight.

Every one of us has a family member or friend who believes the lies and the hype forced on us about firearms by the media and those who seek to further their political careers by demonizing firearms. They probably were scared to death about the evil plastic terrorist pistol in Die Hard 2. In fact if they knew you had one the might even call the cops to report you. And they probably wouldn’t even notice the firearm on the hip of the officer taking the report was an evil “ceramic” Glock.

If you haven’t noticed by now, the 2nd amendment is something I take very seriously, and I urge those who oppose it to stay home from voting, pop some popcorn, and spend their days watching Die Hard 2.

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41 Responses to “Its a ceramic gun!!!”

  1. Elaine Drake on March 4th, 2012 9:51 am

    Congrats on the new baby! She is beautiful! I work for your parents!

  2. roger on March 4th, 2012 8:56 pm

    vince i too seen die hard 2 ….the other off part they switched mags to to blanks …when did they remove the blank firing device from the weapons?
    shooting a live round down a obstructed barrel bad all the way around

  3. Mikemanlyman on March 5th, 2012 8:56 pm

    Great blog, and I agree with your well worded indictment of legislators who support thier proposals based on film fiction. But I do love hot, buttered pop corn, a good walk, and John McClain in Die Hard 2. My fave is the last scene where he uses his Zippo and ignites the jet fuel streaming from the terrorists’ plane. “Whoopie ti aye, mofo.” I am sure that was realsitic too. :)

    P.S. So, from what you are saying, the ceramic gun that John Malcovich’s presidential assasin character smuggled through security in th film In the Line of Fire would not have passed through an actual 5metal detector because it would have needed a steel receiver and barrell. Right?

  4. Steve on March 6th, 2012 11:47 am

    Does this mean you don’t have a AR-15 in plastic I can put down my pants legs! LOL

    You seriously are ruining plastic gun ownership for me Vince!

  5. Gregg on March 7th, 2012 11:37 pm

    I have told many anti-gun people the same information able the Glock. Some have figured it out. Some haven’t. I hope all is well with your new little one, and your new business! Keep the faith!

  6. Justin on March 8th, 2012 8:59 pm

    I have to hand it to you Vince, you have the makings of a good writer coming out! I agree that our legislation remains grossly ignorant and missinformed when it comes to firearms. I am helping a few police officer friends who are in a situation were they are forced to use obsolete equipment and tactics because the city councel believes they better understand the dangers and saftey concerns than the officers themselves.

  7. Steve on March 8th, 2012 9:32 pm

    Congrats on the new baby as well. My wife and I have 7 kids so if you need any advice on changing diapers let me know :D

  8. edgar on March 9th, 2012 12:56 pm

    hey vince hopefully your doing good and MKR takes off. I was looking to purchase an ak-47 or an ak-74 , as my first fire arm. Is there any way you can build a better gun at a better price than your ex employers? I know i can get these guns any where and every where . Being a new gun owner i would like to get a gun from some one trust worthy. I know it sounds silly to say , but yeah you show more character and moral integrity than a lot of others. Sorry for this long comment/question. Congrats on your new baby. and thanks for talking to me on face book although you may not remember. p.s it would be cool to have your company insignia and your signature on your fire arms.

  9. Tuco on March 9th, 2012 4:18 pm

    Look up Troy Sellers at In Range. He does great work & is a super guy

  10. G. D. Smith (Streaker) on March 12th, 2012 10:12 am

    Congrats on your new business. May you have great success. I’m commenting because of seeing your “Church of the Inbred” story. I’m a state officer with the Patriot Guard Riders in Texas, and have been to many funerals for veterans and some of the kids who have been KIA in Iraq and Afghanistan. The idiots in Topeka actually did us a favor, because before folks weren’t paying our heroes the honor they deserved. My Dad served in WW II, and spent some time as a P.O.W. in Germany during and after the Battle of the Bulge. I’m not a vet myself, but have always had a patriotic streak because of him.

    Thanks again for your work. Keep fighting the good fight………………………GDS

  11. NCHeel on March 14th, 2012 11:58 pm

    The GLOCK 17 is not named because the mag holds 17 rounds. It was the 17th patent applied for by Gaston’s company.

  12. Azkal33 on March 23rd, 2012 3:57 pm

    Not to piss on anyone’s pancakes, but ceramic technology has gone very far from crock pots.

    The Kyocera Company (you probably know them for their phones) makes a lot of devices from ceramics (Kyocera stands for Kyoto Ceramics).

    They were one of the first companies to/still manufacture/sell ceramic knives and not the cheap As Seen On TV ones you see at Walmart; they were initially used by Japanese Sushi chefs because, unlike their steel counterparts, the ceramic knives did not hold the taste/scent of the fish, which is prone to leeching whatever taste/scent of the food around it. This way, your Tuna roll did not taste like the previous customer’s Dragon roll.

    Although made of mostly hardened ceramic, Kyocera mixes in a small amount of metal into their proprietary ceramic mixture; this is not to make the material more durable, but so that their products cannot pass metal detectors.

    So , could one make a firearm from 100% ceramic to pass a metal detector?

    Probably not, as stated by Mikemanlyman: there are a lot of components that still need to be made out of metal. You can rifle hardened ceramic, even make the firing pin out of it or a hardened polymer, but what about the spring? Not to mention how are you going to pass your ammunition through said detector?

    I guess you could do what J. Malk. did and slip it into your keychain, but this raises the question: why all this effort? Just so you can do it?

    I guarantee anyone that there are more than a dozen firearms/engineering companies that have the resources and technology to make a metal detector-proof firearm, but why make one? There is no modern country in the world that would knowingly allow you to make such a weapon within their borders and not to mention the international community would be so far up your butt they could check for polyps.

    Definitely agree that Politicians look for reality in Hollywood WAY too much; like a simple computer virus will take down a whole alien species like it did in Independence Day or that a billionaire would dress up like a bat at night to fight crime. If that were the case, we need to pay hackers to create alien-killing computer viruses and deputize every billionaire.

    The true “gun nuts” are not the ones that are armed, but the ones who want everyone disarmed.

  13. Nathaniel Graham on April 1st, 2012 9:32 pm

    Just FYI, while most people think that the Glock 17 is called the Glock 17 because of it’s magazine capacity it’s actually because it was Gaston Glock’s 17th patent. The 17 round capacity is just a coincidence, which is why it’s the only Glock that’s number is equal to it’s original magazine capacity (the 19 comes standard with 15rd mag, etc).

  14. Tom on April 19th, 2012 1:49 pm

    John Malkovich constructed some sort of composite, or plastic, or ceramic hand gun in ‘In the Line of Fire.” That was a Clint Eastwood movie. Clint would not include some make believe weapon in one of his movies!


    P.S. Sarcasm much?

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  37. Mike on May 24th, 2013 9:17 pm

    I listen to you speak, i have watched you on the show. Your a jerk, a real ass the way you act and treating folks like garbage. Does that make you happy you want a be bad boy?

  38. Nothin' but the truth on May 25th, 2013 12:21 pm

    Mike, it’s true that Vince has sometimes been depicted as different from the great guy he is in reality. If you actually knew him, and the other players involved, you would better understand why it was necessary to divorce himself from that situation. Some of the truth is beginning to come to the surface and I hope you will keep an open mind and not let manufactured drama cause you to have hard feelings.

  39. mark on June 2nd, 2013 12:06 am

    What was the whole point of that talk about the black pistol.I really thought for a second you were going to say something worth reading as i kept on reading hoping for a point to your running on about die hard 2.All you did was read something that was written by someones else i read a while back,and re write it.I can not remember the person name or is it worth my time to spend a hr to find his writing,but come on at least write your own stuff if your going to compare the glock to something.Yes we all love our guns etc ,etc !!!!!!!!! I thought for a second you might even be writing about the plastic computer guns we can all make in our own house with our computers,that would of been a much better thing to talk about than some old re-hash junk.good luck with your shop,but i also think if you want to be on T.V. you should get your own show if you hate red Jacket that much. All the B.S cry baby he he did this to me ,and he called me this.Who cares all you did was make both of you guys look like a jack Ass.Hell you got to start a company and your getting to tell 1000′s of people on T.V. you started your own company get over all of it

  40. James Westhoff on June 7th, 2013 5:25 pm

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  41. Thomas on August 28th, 2014 7:55 am

    Most politicians don’t really believe what they see in Hollywood. They are exploiting the fact that the majority of their support is ignorant enough to believe what they see on TV. They’re ok with running with a lie, if it serves them.

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